16 December 2008

NEWS - Bullying is rife in Australian Workplaces - COMMENTS

REVELATIONS of high school bullying have sparked debate among readers over intimidation and harassment in the workplace.

A Trends in International Mathematics and Science Study found bullying in Australian primary schools is in the worst category in the world.

More than a quarter of Australian Year 4 students said they had suffered bullying, according to the study.

Expert Evelyn Field yesterday responded to news that Australian students were among the world's worst bullies by stating office bullying was even more rife.

Tells us of your experiences below.

One AdelaideNow reader described how "the terrible impact" of workplace bullies drove her to quit her job.

"Passive bullying is the worst and very hard to challenge," she wrote.

Cyber bullying - via the internet or mobile phones - also was a concern.


I was bullied in the workplace for two and a half years until I was retrenched. I just refused to leave so they had to retrench me. The problem with placing a complaint to senior management was they are involved in the bullying as well, but worked behind the scene leaving others to done their dirty work. This will be a cost that will flow on to Workcover and the Government should take steps to stop this by giving large fines to business and Government Departments/Agentices who fail to stop workplace bullying.

Posted by: Also in a better place of adelaide 4:04pm today
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Several of us within the store have suffered at the hands of the most awful bullies ever.Some of us got set up for stuff that should of only had a warning , but instead they lost thier jobs and the rest of us had to leave because of the bullying and evil behaviour within the store.this is a big well known furniture and electrical company, who put frannchisses in, run each department as a seperate business so as the franchissee always has less than 100 employees and you cant take them to a tribunal....very clever. The authorities are unhelpful and pass you from one department to another and no-one is interested,Bullying is a massive problem in Australia, and so many people loose thier jobs because of it.Corruption within companies is huge and you cant go to anyone, because the bosses tip off the culprits and then the bullying just gets worse and more underhand,you know whats happening but you just cant get any help whatsoever.You cant fight it in the end.You know if you dont leave, they are going to set you up for something.Come on Australia, you are the only country where this is tolerated, and no-one wants to know

Posted by: cd of 7:44am today
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Bullying in SA primary schools in the worst category in the world.....this came as no surprise to me! My yr 8 son was a constant victim throughout his primary school years (not only by his peers but also adults in teaching roles) & any form of retaliation was rewarded with suspension for him while the bullies remained in class. The bullying continued into high school.......with my son and three friends threatened (warned they would be bashed at lunch time) by a group of approximately 20. Lunch time duly saw one boy on the ground being kicked by 5 or so of the bullies. My son and mates were way out-numbered and new there was little point in trying to flee so fought back as best they could. Result......three boys suspended and one excluded for ten weeks. That was the four who were set upon by the large group. Given the warning, they had armed themselves with 'protection' from the schools tech area and although it remained unused, possessing a weapon (for protection purposes & obtained within the school grounds) was considered a far worse offense than kicking a person already on the ground. I consider my son to be very lucky.......he was excluded for 10 weeks......he became a much happier & healthier teenager within half of that time.....he will not return to school....EVER.....his Mother has had enough!

Posted by: Lyn Hamilton of Northern Suburbs 6:35am today
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Some years ago I worked for a charity and the director was an absolute tyrant. She was so bad that a staff meeting one day she told us that we needed to do weekend collecting to generate finance for our pay.

Posted by: Margaret of Farside 10:19pm December 15, 2008
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Karen of the Murraylands, I agree with you on the bullying of Foster Carers by Social Workers and District Office Managers, and is well known at that Office, no wonder they cant get Foster Carers, and keep children in B&B and hotels and Motels. The job of Foster Caring is hard enough without being bullied by ill informed people, with one agenda. Its time the new Minister Rankine had an enquiry into it before we lose too many more, or will she send it back to them to sort out themselves. Caesar investigating Caesar. HMMMMMMMM!

Posted by: Kenofthe Country of 9:43pm December 15, 2008
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Bullying is rampant. There is NO area that shows it as a bad example. Governments no longer 'govern'; they bully and dominate. It is a classic lesson to society that bullying is OK. because they (Gov) go unchecked. Bullying in schools-not dealt with; ignored or denied. Bullying in the workplace-Public OR Private- not dealt with; ignored or denied. And in most cases, what makes the situation dramatically worse...is that the victim is blamed!! I am now a Senior and retired;-but I will NEVER forget what happened to me. My heart goes out to those of you still coping with these vile creatures. It WILL continue, because nothing is done to stop it.

Posted by: Lucrezia Poppins of 8:22pm December 15, 2008
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Yes, workplace bullying is alive and well in the SA Public Service. And if you end up making a complaint, it is totally whitewashed and your are blamed! The bully is promoted. It's about time the policies that departments put out, that sound all so great, are actually put into action. Workplace bullies should not be tolerated, but they certainly are at present. I work in a department which is easily up with the worst offenders for complaints of this sort, but it takes a lot of courage to take this step, and not everyone can do it.

Posted by: Ruth of Adelaide 3:57pm December 15, 2008
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Workplace bullying is alive and well because it is so covert and in my experience it is the boss (a Christian school principal) who nearly destroyed me. Insiduous comments, constant putdowns, withholding information and communication and the list goes on while he smiled at the world telling al that he was a great guy. Creep. Lodging a complaint is not easy either as the board Chairperson just went straight back to the Principal to tell him there was a problem and could he have a look at it and work it out. this meant more bullying. Unfortunately the boy's club is as strong as ever and this creep was supported at all levels of the food chain.

Posted by: Creeps in the workplace of 3:31pm December 15, 2008
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Volunteer Foster Carers are always Bullied here In Murray Bridge Families SA Office, Hon Jay weatherill did not help us , Jennifer Rankien won't either. Some Social workers spoil it for all the good ones. Why don't they just do their job, instead of worring who's going to be top dog.

Posted by: Karen of Murraylands 3:27pm December 15, 2008
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The problem can be traced to school where despite great efforts to counter bullying, very little headway is being made. Could it be wrong-headed, inflexible ideology which is to blame? When I went to school in the early 1970's my parents, uncles and grandparents all at some point told me: "Never hit anyone, but if a child hits you, hit them back twice as hard." Can you imagine giving this advice in today's cloying world, where children are taught from day 1 to appeal to the authorities (teachers) in each and every case? I had to apply this time-honoured rule when I came to Australia as a nine-year-old in 1975. Three boys in my grade 5 class thought me an easy target and threatened and harrassed me over the course of a few days. I knew the school rules even then, were that i should "dob on them". Instead I retaliated and gave one of these fellow nine-year-olds a bloody nose. The principal lectured us both sternly, but wisely did not punish us. The outcome? I regained some confidence, and as often happens in cases like this, became good friends with my former attackers. It took 10 minutes of everyone's time, and a lifetime of wisdom. Contrast that with today's dominant ideology which seems to be that retaliation (without involving authority) is bad terrible, awful! I feel we need to take stock of this belief and ask ourselves what the consequences are. Is it not obvious that retaliation is THE most effective means of dealing with an aggressor? Increase the cost and the risk to the aggressor. This retaliation either involves authorities, or it does not. Where it does not involve authorities, the retaliation can often be more swift, and more effective. It should be up to the individual to decide. All we can ask is that authorities (schools, HR, tribunals) show some recognition that direct retaliation, used judiciously, can be a very effective adjunct to treating conflict. We are in a society where resources are stretched, and where the expectation of authoritarian intervention is so ingrained that a sense of helplessness has infected many of us. What I am saying is this: Don't take it. Don't take it to the authorities. Fight your own battles. Make sure the cost to the bully is high. If you rely on the authorities to fight your battles for you, you are just a different kind of victim.

Posted by: AGF of Adelaide 3:23pm December 15, 2008
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It seems the common way these days is emotional bullying. I work for a large National company that has the Head Office based here. There are 3 words that the company live by, Manager has obviously never read them as she gets in the lift. The nit-picking at little things, the talking to other manager/staff about performance or being labelled a "trouble maker" because my views and decisions are either diferent to hers or correct. My Manager even has a go in Team Meetings. One day she was quite obvious about it, I told her where to go and left the meeting. That afternoon, I addressed the issue with her Manager and was told "Let's give it 3 months and see how it goes!" Under the carpet that went. Another example of Management not having the "balls" to deal bullying and harrassment. 3 months after that my Manager and I had a heated arguement, I handed in my resignation. Now I can look forward to staying at home with my newborn early next year. A much more rewarding position.

Posted by: adelaide cbd of sa 3:23pm December 15, 2008
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And when you do meet & speak with the Equal Opportunity Commission (EOC), ask the officer about a mediated settlement and if it can be enforced by the EOC. In my experience, use the legislation, post mediation, to get through to the Equal Opportunity Tribunal in the District Court. You got a better shot at justice, though it is a difficult and arduous trek. Personally, I found the EOC impotent and way too quick to tell me to move on for the sake of my health.

Posted by: Rob of Wynn Vale 3:06pm December 15, 2008
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To get me out of here. A lot of mobile telephones have the ability to record conversations. If yours has this ability then use it to record what he does and says. If he touches you, make sure you state it clearly for the recording that you do not want him to touch you. DO NOT give the original recording to your HR department. Instead, make a copy and take it to them. Insist that you want them to ensure that he bahaves legally. Retain the copy for future use. It is unfortunate to have to do it this way; but it is the only way such perpetrators understand

Posted by: George of Gawler 2:56pm December 15, 2008
Comment 27 of 39

To 'Get me out of here' (comment 22), you should have an informal chat with SA's Equal Opportunity Commission or secondly, the Employee Ombudsman. Both have web-sites and they also have case officers who could help you.

Posted by: Roman of North Adelaide 2:38pm December 15, 2008
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It's a bit hard to have the workplace bullies stopped when you are age 14 and they(bullies) are star workers,older and friends of the boss.I eventually found the courage to run away from them and it was only due to luck that I found another job before my dominating mother found out,as she was the one who pulled me out of school and shoved me into a workplace which should have been anyones dream,but instead it turned out to be the workplace from Hell.

Posted by: Workplace from Hell of Hell 1:13pm December 15, 2008
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I too have had this happen in the public service. I noted all the dates and times of what had happened and after about three months took it to my supervisor. This bully had done this before to a colleague, I saw it build up until he physically assulted her. Her got a warning from HR. When I went to my supervisor they told me not to get HR involved because it made everything too hard to sort out. He probably should have been arrested for what he did the first time.

Posted by: Kristy of Here 12:48pm December 15, 2008
Comment 24 of 39

Compared to what used to happen, especially in blue collar workplaces the bullying today seems to have a far more emotional form. As a 17 year old in the late 70's, working at a then leading crash repairer, I was subjected to what must be described as bullying to the extreme. Imagine having your car vandalised constantly, having your work sabotaged, constant verbal abuse and humiliation and as the ultimate degradation bound a slung up on a tackle to be coated with tar and floor sweepings. While I was distracted by all the excitement my wages along with Xmas bonus were removed from the pocket of my pants that had been earlier removed........all great fun at my expense. The owner who incidentally has just been awarded a medal for his 'heroic' efforts in Vietnam was totally unsympathetic to the events as was the manager at the time. As for a reason for the bullying, the best I could think of was that I didn't head on down to the pub on payday to blow my pay packet. Bullying doesn't happen to everyone but for those it does happen to it is a very stressful experience. For me it helped make me a stronger person emotionally but for others it becomes something they never recover from and in the most tragic cases ends in suicide.

Posted by: Nigel Morrell of 12:41pm December 15, 2008
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I am female and I need help. I enjoy my job except my boss is sleazy, he gets all touchy feely with me one day calling me pet names and touching me, then the next he ignores me and criticises me on everything i do.....I want to say something to someone but it will make it so hard for me to still work here......

Posted by: Get me out of here!!!! of 12:41pm December 15, 2008
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I stood up against work place bullying.....and never worked for that company again. The self admitted bully is still there though.......

Posted by: Anon of 12:31pm December 15, 2008
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Yes, I have been bullied many times in the workplace over the years, including my current workplace. Many times, in various jobs, including this one, management have called me in over many and bizarre issues. The bullying officially stopped when I saw a Lawyer and got them to write a letter to management. I am nobody's easy target.

Posted by: w of 12:10pm December 15, 2008
Comment 20 of 39

Managers and Owners need to wake up to the fact that if they want to identify the worst performers in their businesses/organisations, they should start with the bullies. By the same token there needs to be some community clarity around what constitutes workplace bullying - there are too many employees that think they are being bullied because their supervisor or manager is holding them to account for performing their jobs properly.

Posted by: Rob of Houghton 11:43am December 15, 2008
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There is hope ! I fought workplace bullying from 2000 until recently when I resigned. Suffice to say that the two 'top dogs' of the State Government agency in which I worked are now GONE!!! Yep, I paid a price, and yep I struggled through the Workcover process TWICE. All I can say to victims is to never, never give up. I got there, in the end. But it is not for the fainthearted. And don't expect much, oopps any support from the PSA or the Government itself. Weak as soap suds.

Posted by: Rob of Wynn Vale 11:39am December 15, 2008
Comment 18 of 39

Bullying is at an all-time high in the State Public Service. Even our current Premier was embarrassed after he discussed the issue at a conference and the media picked up the story. Yet the bullying continues unabated, and is often encouraged by those at the most senior of levels. Of course, monitoring is minimal to non-existent to keep the issue off the radar.

Posted by: Roman of North Adelaide 11:32am December 15, 2008
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I am a female and I have been bullied by the local workplace bully (a mate of the owners). He not only continually bullied me but also the younger men that Used to work for that Company. Not only was I constantly bullied to tears, I could not approach Management as they were "mates". Then to top this off, the Manager used to have weekly sex talks to me. No wonder I left, but they made me work two extra days and threatened to take my pay from me.

Posted by: In a Better place of now 11:24am December 15, 2008
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School yard bullying happens every day. My granddaughter attends a private school and each day older children intimidate the younger ones by asking them for money. This is a daily ritual and yes the teacher has been made aware of it. Teachers should be stamping out this practice. Each week teachers should be announcing to their class what behaviour is unacceptable and will not be tolerated. All children need to hear and know they do not have to allow this intimidation to continue.

Posted by: Anon of Adelaide 11:20am December 15, 2008
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I suffered bullying in the Commonwealth Public Service. Management is very careful about what is seen and what is heard. I did visit the manager to complain about bullying and at the end of the session her note paper was BLANK. She chose not to document anything. I was made to feel as though I was the one creating issues. I could not afford to fight the system, who has the money to pay hefty lawyer fees. After two years of character assassination I walked out of the building to never return. The nasty people may think they have won, but I believe in karma. I am happier now but saddened that I gave them twenty years of loyal service only to be swept out the door.

Posted by: Anon of Adelaide 11:18am December 15, 2008
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adelaide cbd of sa I think I have had a similar experience to you with a boss in the same age group. Bullying in the workplace doesn't have to be obvious - it can be sneaky and persistant in a way that means it takes you a while to realise you are the victim of a bullying manager. I left my workplace because of my manager but she has now follwed me and is one of my bosses once more - Im dreading the consequences. I too work in the public service and love my job but there are a lot of people around who wouldn't still be employed if it was private business!

Posted by: C of Northern Suburbs 11:16am December 15, 2008
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I agree that bullying in the workplace in rife in the SA Public Service. I experienced considerable passive bullying by a psychiatrist I worked for and HR officer whilst working in a local hospital and also by two paid staff of the Country Fire Service. Of course, I was the one who was dispensable as I was the least qualified and in the latter position temporary. I have been told by several people in the workplace that my work is excellent and I am "ahead of my time" for the Public Service. This gives some indication of the dead wood and poor leadership currently managing our public service. Passive bullying is the norm in some areas and is very difficult to prove. I have given up and through these experiences I am now looking at the rest of my life on a disability pension which places more of a drain on this states resources.

Posted by: Heather Hardy of Mount Barker SA 11:10am December 15, 2008
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Its not just government, I've been the victim of bullying in the private sector. As in the article, passive bullying (such as exclusion) just isn't taken seriously by employers, even when its specifically detailled as bullying behaviour in their company policy. When I complained to my previous employer, I was sent to an occupational psychologist as if it was me causing the problem, and no other action was ever taken. When I continued to complain, my contract was paid out and my employment terminated.

Posted by: Sara of Adelaide 11:07am December 15, 2008
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Workplace bullying is a real problem, at my previous job I resigned and gave a month's notice.. during my last four weeks constant remarks were made by my boss about still needing to put in an effort despite leaving and that I should still care about my work and also generally picking at my decision to leave to the point where I took 3days off in my last week as the bullying had gotten too much. Not called for and there was nothing I could do because her boss simply waved the issue off when approached by me. There needs to be somewhere to go to report this kind of behaviour

Posted by: ex employee of radelaidia 10:37am December 15, 2008
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It is very difficult to prove bullying. For instance it is not considered bullying if a manager does not follow procedures. At the Gawler Health Service, managers are allowed to instruct employees via mobile telephone text messages that the employee is not to return to work. The CEO of Country Health SA considers this to be "special leave with pay". When this type of activity is entrenched, then bullying will never be stamped out.

Posted by: George of Gawler 10:34am December 15, 2008
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My daughter worked as a teacher for DECS.It was the most disgusting and demeaning experience that she had to experience.It became apparent to her that unless you acquired an attitude of grovelling and being grateful,the system was just not interested in you.Methods employed were indifference,delays in getting paid,support not forthcoming from the management with behaviour problems,threats of distant locations and disadvantaged schools,inability to communicate with employer and union impotence.Thankfully,like many others,she found another job but her training and talent were wasted.

Posted by: Ruth of Adelaide 10:20am December 15, 2008
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The SA Public Service must be among the worst places for passive workplace bullying. In a State where it's not easy to find well-paid professional work the public service is a good option. Unfortunately once people get in they never want to leave and they do little else but protect their spot in the chain so they can pay off their mortgage as quickly as possible. This means anyone who's different, or with slightly controversial ideas, is identified as trouble and knocked into line or knocked out. Tick the right boxes and contribute nothing interesting and you'll have a safe, lack-lustre, well-paid career where you spend a lot of energy keeping others in their place below you. Following six years of being harrassed by two bosses in the SA Public Service, one after the other, my career is again progessing nicely and I enjoy my work. I moved interstate earlier this year. The first boss in SA gossiped incessantly behind my back sprouting untruths about my previous international work experience. This planted seeds of doubt about my integrity with colleagues and superiors. He was too busy comparing himself favourably to me, and trying to set others against me, to actually get on with his job. The next boss only bothered to say hello when she needed a task completed, or wanted to talk about her expertise rather than show it. She was reluctant to engage with talented staff so she could feel assured about being removed from - above - them. I hated that job, yet knew there were few options elsewhere for me in SA; none I dare say that would've paid as well. The SA Public Service needs much improved leadership so it can inspire and reward people to be innovative, and weed out self-serving dullards who ultimately undermine a brighter future for SA. Nurturing bright people would be a useful first-step towards better supporting the SA Government do more about attracting bigger business and curbing SA's brain-drain.

Posted by: KJAX of NSW 9:53am December 15, 2008
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Indeed is. My manager is an over 50 female. Doesn't like admitting her mistakes and takes it out on me and others. No wonder everyone else is moving up in the ladder and she's still on the same rung. It is hard to establish a career that I enjoy to the point where I've given up.

Posted by: adelaide cbd of sa 9:51am December 15, 2008
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Yes, very true. The public service use to conduct a climate survey in its workplace. Because it didn't like the responses it hasn't conducted one now for a couple of years and doesn't intend to. Bullying was one of the problem areas identified that they never addressed.

Posted by: M Bund of Adelaide 9:35am December 15, 2008
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A friend of mine lost her job last year through bullying. She is being treated like dirt by Workcover. Workcover told her that her employer was a "nice person". She said "you don't know them". Workcovers reply "we don't want to hear that". The bullies still have their jobs. See this girls story on This Day Tonight website from last year "Toxic emails". Your paper should follow it up if you are serious about the bullying issue.

Posted by: Anon of Adelaide 9:18am December 15, 2008
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As much as WorkPlace SA efforts in dealing with bullying issues, I found WorkCover the worst offenders in dealing with injured workers!

Posted by: Jafa of Adelaide 9:07am December 15, 2008
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As a 53 year old male, I have been forced to quit my job, abandon my small town country lifestyle, sell assets and relocate to a larger regional centre to get away from a workplace bully. My wages have dropped, my house rent has doubled but my mental, emotional and physical health are improving now that I don't have to face the abuse, intimidation and humiliation of the former work site. I raised my complaints with senior staff but the issue was swept under the carpet & I was made to feel guilty for voicing my concerns. Workplace bullying is alive & well and tolerated because its too hard to deal with and reflects poorly on senior management if it is acknowledged. 3 out of 4 members of my previous work team have quit since October 08, but the bully retains their position.

Posted by: Steve Woolley of Whyalla 9:02am December 15, 2008
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